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		<title>By: CodeGear Delphi For PHP 1.0</title>
		<link>http://www.procata.com/blog/archives/2007/02/23/delphi-for-php/#comment-84739</link>
		<dc:creator>CodeGear Delphi For PHP 1.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;CodeGear Delphi For PHP 1.0 ...&lt;/strong&gt;

 I have to comment on this week&#8217;s annoucement of elphi for PHP. I was a elphi programmer for a [...]...</description>
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<p> I have to comment on this week&#8217;s annoucement of elphi for PHP. I was a elphi programmer for a [...]&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: CodeGear RAD Studio 2007 Architect</title>
		<link>http://www.procata.com/blog/archives/2007/02/23/delphi-for-php/#comment-84738</link>
		<dc:creator>CodeGear RAD Studio 2007 Architect</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;CodeGear RAD Studio 2007 Architect ...&lt;/strong&gt;

 I have to comment on this week&#8217;s annoucement of elphi for PHP. I was a elphi programmer for a [...]...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>CodeGear RAD Studio 2007 Architect &#8230;</strong></p>
<p> I have to comment on this week&#8217;s annoucement of elphi for PHP. I was a elphi programmer for a [...]&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn White</title>
		<link>http://www.procata.com/blog/archives/2007/02/23/delphi-for-php/#comment-84365</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 20:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started using Delphi for PHP version 2. I never used version 1 and find it to be excellent. Most of the negative opinions are from people who looked at it but didn&#039;t use it on real world projects. I used it on a mid size but extremely complex project and founds it&#039;s templating features to be effective and easy to use. The Visual Studio IDE is the reason ASP.Net is so popular. Except for CodeCharge (which is more of a code generation tool) PHP4delphi is the only truly visual drag and drop IDE for PHP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started using Delphi for PHP version 2. I never used version 1 and find it to be excellent. Most of the negative opinions are from people who looked at it but didn&#8217;t use it on real world projects. I used it on a mid size but extremely complex project and founds it&#8217;s templating features to be effective and easy to use. The Visual Studio IDE is the reason ASP.Net is so popular. Except for CodeCharge (which is more of a code generation tool) PHP4delphi is the only truly visual drag and drop IDE for PHP.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris MacPherson</title>
		<link>http://www.procata.com/blog/archives/2007/02/23/delphi-for-php/#comment-83841</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris MacPherson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 09:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Pieter Viljoen 

I think not going going forward might be a big mistake somehow :)

I was hoping to try this IDE out as ihave the Zend for Eclipse which is the buggiest piece of crap ever (so far)! Only problem is I am also on a Mac like a few people above. It would be greate to see a version for us too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Pieter Viljoen </p>
<p>I think not going going forward might be a big mistake somehow <img src='http://www.procata.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I was hoping to try this IDE out as ihave the Zend for Eclipse which is the buggiest piece of crap ever (so far)! Only problem is I am also on a Mac like a few people above. It would be greate to see a version for us too.</p>
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		<title>By: Pieter Viljoen</title>
		<link>http://www.procata.com/blog/archives/2007/02/23/delphi-for-php/#comment-83833</link>
		<dc:creator>Pieter Viljoen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally enjoyed, this article, because I went through the same emotions with Borland. I too often had discussions with Borland representatives and started thinking that they have wax in their ears. They simply never listened.

Fact is Delphi for PHP was a marketing stunt which I think worked. It provided PHP developers with a productive IDE.

But now that Codegear has moved on, what will there future be. Will they have real technological leaders like Anders Heijlsberg, or just revert to being a follower in the market?

We need clean and productive development tools. Enhancements, improvements and even changes of and to the language to support solutions is of paramount importance. I would rather have one single syntactically clean language, rather this myriad mess of concocted languages which is confusing, overlapping, idiosyncratic and incomplete.

More of the same is not better. Of course we need Developmemt tools for the Web. But does it have to be PHP now. Save me the &#039;It must run on Windows and Linux argument&#039;, that is an implementation and deployment issue.

Is it not time that we have some great new language designer that revises the artifacts we are building with and designs something much more simple to glue all together.

I was happy with Object Pascal, but it needed more cleanup. And why was Ada abandoned. Should Object Pascal not have converted into Object Ada? Should PL/SQL (Ada based language) not have become THE database language standard for ALL databases, And should the Web not have had a clean web language along the same lines. 

The point that I am trying to make, is that our development landscape is messy. I am not convinced that either Microsoft, Sun or IBM have to be our only options. Java and C# as languages may be highly acclaimed and popular, but they certainly do not present and read as well as Ada.

What is important, is that we do not progress forward, not move sideways, or go backward!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally enjoyed, this article, because I went through the same emotions with Borland. I too often had discussions with Borland representatives and started thinking that they have wax in their ears. They simply never listened.</p>
<p>Fact is Delphi for PHP was a marketing stunt which I think worked. It provided PHP developers with a productive IDE.</p>
<p>But now that Codegear has moved on, what will there future be. Will they have real technological leaders like Anders Heijlsberg, or just revert to being a follower in the market?</p>
<p>We need clean and productive development tools. Enhancements, improvements and even changes of and to the language to support solutions is of paramount importance. I would rather have one single syntactically clean language, rather this myriad mess of concocted languages which is confusing, overlapping, idiosyncratic and incomplete.</p>
<p>More of the same is not better. Of course we need Developmemt tools for the Web. But does it have to be PHP now. Save me the &#8216;It must run on Windows and Linux argument&#8217;, that is an implementation and deployment issue.</p>
<p>Is it not time that we have some great new language designer that revises the artifacts we are building with and designs something much more simple to glue all together.</p>
<p>I was happy with Object Pascal, but it needed more cleanup. And why was Ada abandoned. Should Object Pascal not have converted into Object Ada? Should PL/SQL (Ada based language) not have become THE database language standard for ALL databases, And should the Web not have had a clean web language along the same lines. </p>
<p>The point that I am trying to make, is that our development landscape is messy. I am not convinced that either Microsoft, Sun or IBM have to be our only options. Java and C# as languages may be highly acclaimed and popular, but they certainly do not present and read as well as Ada.</p>
<p>What is important, is that we do not progress forward, not move sideways, or go backward!</p>
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		<title>By: JackSfe</title>
		<link>http://www.procata.com/blog/archives/2007/02/23/delphi-for-php/#comment-83088</link>
		<dc:creator>JackSfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, What can I say? Just Delphi Rulez, and what more? PHP too! so, I was an old programmer in Delphi, but times change, and I must change and migrate to multiplataform. Now days, this news was really goood!
So, I hope, be part of this community...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, What can I say? Just Delphi Rulez, and what more? PHP too! so, I was an old programmer in Delphi, but times change, and I must change and migrate to multiplataform. Now days, this news was really goood!<br />
So, I hope, be part of this community&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ZIB_NIMER</title>
		<link>http://www.procata.com/blog/archives/2007/02/23/delphi-for-php/#comment-83000</link>
		<dc:creator>ZIB_NIMER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 03:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let us say, if Delphi was owned by Microsoft, it would have kicked all languages a**. Delphi is the best tool by far. Im&#039; sure DeLphi4PHP would be greate, if not, the best. LONG LIVE DELPHI.. MY KING..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let us say, if Delphi was owned by Microsoft, it would have kicked all languages a**. Delphi is the best tool by far. Im&#8217; sure DeLphi4PHP would be greate, if not, the best. LONG LIVE DELPHI.. MY KING..</p>
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		<title>By: Roberto</title>
		<link>http://www.procata.com/blog/archives/2007/02/23/delphi-for-php/#comment-82494</link>
		<dc:creator>Roberto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 00:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still very confused, what is the best php RAD ide ? any suggestion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still very confused, what is the best php RAD ide ? any suggestion?</p>
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		<title>By: nestor j fernandez</title>
		<link>http://www.procata.com/blog/archives/2007/02/23/delphi-for-php/#comment-82432</link>
		<dc:creator>nestor j fernandez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use to love Delphi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use to love Delphi</p>
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		<title>By: Swambwheebral</title>
		<link>http://www.procata.com/blog/archives/2007/02/23/delphi-for-php/#comment-82360</link>
		<dc:creator>Swambwheebral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 01:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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there as low as 75% off sticker price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iâ€™ve got an Amazon gift certificate burning holes in my pocket,<br />
and I want to get the most bang for my buck. </p>
<p>Enter the Secret Amazon Web Pages: </p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/38sojf" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/38sojf</a> </p>
<p>This is where youâ€™re going to find the &#8220;latest sales, rebates, and limited-time offers&#8221; from<br />
Amazon, and you can score some pretty deep discounts if youâ€™re a savvy shopper. </p>
<p>Next, thereâ€™s the special Sale link. This is open every Friday, and ONLY on Fridays. </p>
<p>You can find the same good discounts here as you would in hidden Deals, although some<br />
Fridays you can really get lucky and make off like an Amazon bandit &#8211; Iâ€™ve seen discounts<br />
there as low as 75% off sticker price.</p>
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