Comments on: Building a culture of objects in PHP http://www.procata.com/blog/archives/2006/01/13/building-a-culture-of-objects-in-php/ PHP Programming, Web Development, PHP Advocacy and PHP Best Practices. Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:53:56 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Jesse Crier http://www.procata.com/blog/archives/2006/01/13/building-a-culture-of-objects-in-php/#comment-86432 Jesse Crier Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:04:08 +0000 http://www.procata.com/blog/?p=150#comment-86432 Usually I don't learn post on blogs, but I wish to say that this write-up very forced me to check out and do so! Your writing style has been surprised me. Thanks, quite nice post. Usually I don’t learn post on blogs, but I wish to say that this write-up very forced me to check out and do so! Your writing style has been surprised me. Thanks, quite nice post.

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]]> By: Hello.World » Zend Framework Raises Interesting Problem » The Weblog of Matthew Delmarter http://www.procata.com/blog/archives/2006/01/13/building-a-culture-of-objects-in-php/#comment-84090 Hello.World » Zend Framework Raises Interesting Problem » The Weblog of Matthew Delmarter Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:22:25 +0000 http://www.procata.com/blog/?p=150#comment-84090 [...] in PHP5 - which has lead to a number of questions and comments from the community. Check out this post from Jeff Moore for some interesting [...] [...] in PHP5 – which has lead to a number of questions and comments from the community. Check out this post from Jeff Moore for some interesting [...]

]]> By: OOP is Mature, not Dead - Professional PHP http://www.procata.com/blog/archives/2006/01/13/building-a-culture-of-objects-in-php/#comment-61966 OOP is Mature, not Dead - Professional PHP Sun, 07 Jan 2007 20:51:26 +0000 http://www.procata.com/blog/?p=150#comment-61966 [...] As I said, the core OOP features that most programmers use are in all the mainstream languages. The interesting part is how they handle the OOP edge cases. This is the space where the framework developers live. As I wrote in culture of objects, PHP has some problems here. In some ways I think Ruby's support for edge cases is exactly what allow a framework such as rails to be built in it, although, I'm not familiar enough with Ruby to say for certain. [...] [...] As I said, the core OOP features that most programmers use are in all the mainstream languages. The interesting part is how they handle the OOP edge cases. This is the space where the framework developers live. As I wrote in culture of objects, PHP has some problems here. In some ways I think Ruby’s support for edge cases is exactly what allow a framework such as rails to be built in it, although, I’m not familiar enough with Ruby to say for certain. [...]

]]> By: hafizan http://www.procata.com/blog/archives/2006/01/13/building-a-culture-of-objects-in-php/#comment-18287 hafizan Fri, 19 May 2006 06:24:40 +0000 http://www.procata.com/blog/?p=150#comment-18287 Framework or not.Are we going to be java like inhertiable like lang.java.xxx or whatever or like .net framework library.PHp are easy to code but the main problem is they don't have fix idea when developing software.Like vb at less they object.movenext but in php there are actually no way paging via oop style vb.So i have to create my own class just for pagenation.One more thing about class and object.Memory when use in the same function like you have to for($i=0;$i++) at the difrent function the data come back eventhought the value have been protected.Should be suppose. Framework or not.Are we going to be java like inhertiable like lang.java.xxx or whatever or like .net framework library.PHp are easy to code but the main problem is they don’t have fix idea when developing software.Like vb at less they object.movenext but in php there are actually no way paging via oop style vb.So i have to create my own class just for pagenation.One more thing about class and object.Memory when use in the same function like you have to for($i=0;$i++) at the difrent function the data come back eventhought the value have been protected.Should be suppose.

]]> By: Comparing PHP with other languages | Professional PHP http://www.procata.com/blog/archives/2006/01/13/building-a-culture-of-objects-in-php/#comment-14191 Comparing PHP with other languages | Professional PHP Fri, 10 Feb 2006 02:59:25 +0000 http://www.procata.com/blog/?p=150#comment-14191 [...] I don't disagree with the cultural grouping. PHP's cultural heritage is definitely in the Unix programming, C/Perl camp as I suggested in building a culture of objects in PHP and Why isn't PHP the natural successor to Java? [...] [...] I don’t disagree with the cultural grouping. PHP’s cultural heritage is definitely in the Unix programming, C/Perl camp as I suggested in building a culture of objects in PHP and Why isn’t PHP the natural successor to Java? [...]

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.procata.com/blog/archives/2006/01/13/building-a-culture-of-objects-in-php/#comment-13831 Anonymous Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:25:30 +0000 http://www.procata.com/blog/?p=150#comment-13831 In talking about.... "...how the leaders of the agile development culture seemed to be migrating from Java to Ruby with nary a glance at PHP." ...the next comment seems strange. "I can see why this would be the case. PHP is written in C." Especially strange when you consider that Ruby is written in C (as well as Python). Perhaps it's more correct to say that the PHP developers are not from or of a culture that OO centric. I'd hate to see someone accept that statement without question. Cheers In talking about….

“…how the leaders of the agile development culture seemed to be migrating from Java to Ruby with nary a glance at PHP.”

…the next comment seems strange.

“I can see why this would be the case. PHP is written in C.”

Especially strange when you consider that Ruby is written in C (as well as Python). Perhaps it’s more correct to say that the PHP developers are not from or of a culture that OO centric.

I’d hate to see someone accept that statement without question.

Cheers

]]> By: Marcus Baker http://www.procata.com/blog/archives/2006/01/13/building-a-culture-of-objects-in-php/#comment-13602 Marcus Baker Sat, 14 Jan 2006 01:44:16 +0000 http://www.procata.com/blog/?p=150#comment-13602 Hi Jeff. Darn it, I was going to talk about object culture in PHP at the upcoming Florida gig, and you beat me to it :(. yours, Marcus Hi Jeff.

Darn it, I was going to talk about object culture in PHP at the upcoming Florida gig, and you beat me to it :( .

yours, Marcus

]]> By: Hello.World » Zend Framework Raises Interesting Problem » The Weblog of Matthew Delmarter http://www.procata.com/blog/archives/2006/01/13/building-a-culture-of-objects-in-php/#comment-13592 Hello.World » Zend Framework Raises Interesting Problem » The Weblog of Matthew Delmarter Fri, 13 Jan 2006 21:54:18 +0000 http://www.procata.com/blog/?p=150#comment-13592 [...] In a recent Webcast, Zend showed off the syntax for their upcoming implementation of ActiveRecord. However the syntax shown is simply not possible in PHP5 - which has lead to a number of questions and comments from the community. Check out this post from Jeff Moore for some interesting reading… [...] [...] In a recent Webcast, Zend showed off the syntax for their upcoming implementation of ActiveRecord. However the syntax shown is simply not possible in PHP5 – which has lead to a number of questions and comments from the community. Check out this post from Jeff Moore for some interesting reading… [...]

]]> By: rooster http://www.procata.com/blog/archives/2006/01/13/building-a-culture-of-objects-in-php/#comment-13586 rooster Fri, 13 Jan 2006 20:38:54 +0000 http://www.procata.com/blog/?p=150#comment-13586 Great article! I'd like to see Zend hire a reputable object guru to help PHP turn around its object reputation. This should be someone who is known outside the PHP community, someone who has been going to OOPSLA for longer than PHP has existed. Someone who has a book on object oriented programming, articles, a blog, and who is an expert at teaching object oriented programming (10 years to be an expert). Yeah! I nominate Bruce Eckel. :) Great article!

I’d like to see Zend hire a reputable object guru to help PHP turn around its object reputation. This should be someone who is known outside the PHP community, someone who has been going to OOPSLA for longer than PHP has existed. Someone who has a book on object oriented programming, articles, a blog, and who is an expert at teaching object oriented programming (10 years to be an expert).

Yeah! I nominate Bruce Eckel. :)

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